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Post by Leatherface on Sept 2, 2010 20:56:54 GMT -5
Nothing, his face is completely blacked out, I guess were left to assume he's Jason ind disguise because he makes weird noises when his mask is removed, almost like he's trying to scream.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 2, 2010 22:16:05 GMT -5
Anybody else as bothered as me that they decided to forget this is a Roman numeral series?? It went I, II, III then went 4, 5. No that never seemed very important to me. I mean I guess I feel that way because I never once put any thought into it and still can't seem to get worked up over it no matter how hard I try ;D I remember 4 wasn't terrible for ignoring the ends of II. Halloween 4 absolutely never ignored the end of 2. In fact the original script showed part 2's explosion and it 's intention was to show us how Loomis survived the blast. It was decided by he director that they didn't have to tie it into Halloween 2 anymore than how they already did. Which was showing Michael all burned up in bandaged and Loomis with burn scars on his face. As well as how much they talked about Haddonfield's history with Michael. Even mention Sheriff Brackett.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 2, 2010 22:19:42 GMT -5
Yeahhhhhhhhh it really has been a while What did the Myers house look like and the mask?? I remember how pissed I was about Rachel, kinda like what happened between the Friday 1 to 2 transition Oh boy Tina, one of my least favorite female leads : / The Myers house was turned into a Victorian mansion just so a few scenes could be shot. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Tina is tied with Freddie Harris as the worst characters in the franchise.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 2, 2010 22:42:51 GMT -5
HalloweenHalloween 5
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 3, 2010 5:18:09 GMT -5
;D hey man.. when youre bringing a killer back you can't get hung up on realistic injuries.... you have to suspend disbelief when you see a killer in the next movie no matter what they did in the previous film. That hardly constitutes ignoring part 2 sir #33uvbzt#
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 5:30:55 GMT -5
SPOCK HAS SPOKEN! lol
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 3, 2010 14:50:29 GMT -5
#24# Michael got stabbed in the eye, stabbed in the heart with a butcher knife, shot in the head, shot in the chest 5 more times and fell 30 feet only to get up and run away seconds later. Shot above both eyes into his skull and just stood there in fine shape. You feel thats a portrayal of more humanistic qualities than Jason?
How is getting a machete rammed down your shoulder, stabbed in the knee and an axe planted into your skull any different from anything Michael went through? The only difference was the Halloween writers wanted to maintain some integrity and never turned Michael into a zombie.
Youre a trip dude ;D
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 15:00:04 GMT -5
Also in the " Psychological disorder" thread you said Mikey was supernatural to a degree. Now he's human???
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 3, 2010 15:22:21 GMT -5
I love ya Brax but youre really reaching here, in your quest to agree with Rebel that H4 ignored H2 Whether he's shot 100 times or where flames came out of his mask, the fact is H2 was not ignored.... if it were they just woulda started H4 off with Michael living in his old house with absolutely no scarring on him. He would also still have his old jumpsuit and mask. They even keep Laurie as Michael's sister. Sorry i just can't agree with you guys here because I go on facts more then my emotional feelings or attachment to any movie. Of course I don't know youre reasoning for this debate but I'm guessing it's one of the two.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 15:23:34 GMT -5
I always felt that this was a fine segway from 2. It never ignored 2 I love 4 alot though, It holds a special place in my heart
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 3, 2010 17:01:33 GMT -5
While wasn't nearly as overt as future films were, the original portrays Michael as being not quite human.
Loomis himself admits that he isn't a man, but pure evil.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 17:05:30 GMT -5
Actually since again Halloween 2 took place on the same exact night as 1 they could almost be considered one really long movie and thus he was shot in the head...twice.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 3, 2010 17:26:15 GMT -5
I don't consider the original and Halloween 2 to be one long movie simply because the original is a masterpiece of suspense and Halloween 2 is a slasher movie.
In fact, they retconned the location of the balcony in H2 and we all know about Michael getting shot seven times instead of six.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 17:28:53 GMT -5
It was 7? I always assumed it was 6 regardless of what Part 2 said
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Post by Rebel on Sept 3, 2010 17:38:09 GMT -5
I think this discussion is showing why I said "The Shape" died in the second sequel. 4 and after is a slasher with seemingly no reason for doing anything except wanting his niece Jamie dead.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 3, 2010 18:13:58 GMT -5
It was 7? I always assumed it was 6 regardless of what Part 2 said Loomis had a revolver, which only has six bullets in it. They goofed up the editing for Halloween 2 and seven shots are fired. Yeah, The Shape as Carpenter intended him to be is only in the original. Once the sister angle is brought in, and eventually the family chasing and Thorn, he is just Michael Myers.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 3, 2010 19:00:26 GMT -5
What makes The Shape is that he was just a guy who chose Laurie at random in the original.
Of course, you can also blame Carpenter for having a few beers and making up the sister angle for the sequel, which was never an intention when he made the original in 1978.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 21:07:45 GMT -5
Which The Shape could also fall into the D.I.D thing I mentioned in the Psychological Disorder thread with Michael Myers having two personalities, Michael Myers and The Shape.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 3, 2010 21:30:24 GMT -5
It is a concept more then a psychological disorder.
In the original, we don't know why he snapped and killed his sister, why escaped from Smith's Grove, or why he chose Laurie as his victim.
The sequel throws it all out the window with the family angle thanks to a six pack.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 3, 2010 21:34:58 GMT -5
True which also eliminates his psychosis. But you have to understand a seperate personality is like a nother completely differnt person, D.I.D doesn't always rquire the victim to snap. It's a disease that can just be aqcuired but most mental hospitals in the 60s when Michael was a child did not know the symptoms of it and wrote him off. The Shape is that personality that came out that fateful Halloween night in 1963 and again in 1978. That is how he is able to seperate himself completely, The Shape and Michael Myers are two seperate entities in a sense they just both live in the same body.
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