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Post by Leatherface on Dec 3, 2010 17:38:48 GMT -5
Isn't it strange that we don't really know much about Freddy's life as The Springwood Slasher? I mean we know he killed atleast 20 kids, we know about the trial and his death. But we don't know some things like why he was a child murderer, why did he go to the boiler room ( didn't he live there?) the actual details of his arrest and ect. What are your thoughts of Freddy's reign as Springwood Slasher. Should we know more about it or should we just go off the little info there is.
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Post by Rebel on Dec 3, 2010 17:59:10 GMT -5
I am not fond of prequel of any kind. I like mystery. Backstory kills imagination for me.
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 3, 2010 18:27:07 GMT -5
I mean I don't really see how it can hurt Freddy given the circumstances of him being burned alive and all. But then again they have ways...so many ways.... And like I said we can piece stuff together from like Freddy's dead, Dream Warriors, Freddy's Nightmares and Freddy Vs Jason but there are still major gaps and no I don't thik Fred was ever married and had a kid while he was the slasher
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Post by Rebel on Dec 3, 2010 18:50:01 GMT -5
Hmm. Then you would have to factor in the remake which heavily altered what the other movies put in place. Molester and working as a school janitor as opposed to a factory boiler room. I guess at that point it would be the Springwood . . Molester >_> The pieces aren't final but hey that gives wiggle room for discussion
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 3, 2010 19:00:10 GMT -5
I heard that Freddy, in the regular continuity, was actually a highschool janitor for a short time, got fired, then lived in the boiler room at one point. However I tend to ignore all remakes when it comes to the origin story of these slashers because to me it's a totally different continuity and universe IMO. But what I wanna know is why a glove? Why not a knife?
Or maybe he had a knife and didn't want to create a pattern so he made a glove. Freddy is probably more mysterious than say Jason or Michael because of the huge time gaps in his story.
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 3, 2010 19:19:32 GMT -5
No I mean story wise where did Freddy come up with the glove. What made him deicde to make it?
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 3, 2010 21:22:35 GMT -5
Well I mean like his full story. We know this
His mother was a nun who was raped by 100 maniacs at Westin Hills
He was put up for adoption
His mom comitted suicide
He was adopted and lived in 1428.
He was teased at school and tortured small animals ( which would explain why he targeted children)
Was a self mutilator ( as in he cut himself)
Killed his abusive foster father
Became Springwood Slasher torturing and murdering atleast 20 kids. His haunting ground was Elm St.
Was caught, tried but found not guilty due to a thecnicality.
Parents killed him in a fire.
Body buried in a junkyard.
Became dream man guy thingy. What I wanna know is the boiler room. Why there? Did he work there? Did he work there? how long was he the Springwood slasher ect.
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Post by FireStar on Dec 4, 2010 20:10:20 GMT -5
Well in the first movie Nancy's mom says they 'tracked him to an old abandonded boiler room where he used to take his kids' this would imply that he didn't work or live there and only used it as a place to kill. But in the second one when Jesse and Lisa go to the oil refinery or whatever it was Lisa says he worked there so we have two conflicting stories. Personally I always went with the abandonded boiler room story from the original, since it seemed most likely. I always felt that if it was a location where people were currently working it wouldn't be a secure place for him to do what he did. But when you subscribe to the abandonded boiler room story it makes sense as a place for him to kill. When you think about it he probably chose an abandonded one because it was a secluded place where he could do whatever he wanted to 'his kids' without worrying about being interupted or being spotted. In the end I think it was more of him thinking 'I need a place to do all this and not get caught' and an abandonded boiler room would have been ideal for that.
I also always felt differently about what actually happened to Amanda Krueger. I never felt like she committed suicide I always felt that Freddy killed her. Otherwise why would her body not have been found until Part 5 by Evonne when she breaks down the brick wall. What's more if she killed herself how could she brick herself up in that room, that would be impossible and I don't see other nuns in the convent doing that to cover up a suicide.
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 4, 2010 20:29:28 GMT -5
I have never actually watched part 5 fire lol. The idea of Dream Child is stupid to me. Was she bricked up in Westin and if so how did Freddy know who she was?
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Post by FireStar on Dec 4, 2010 20:45:43 GMT -5
Yeah she was found in a room that was bricked up, the character Evonne had to break through it in order to set her free. During one of Alice's dreams she was in the hospital and when she reached a certain place in it, within her dream he actually retreats and stops coming after her letting Alice get away. The place within Westin that Alice was (while dreaming) is where Evonne goes in the real world and finds her remains. The fact that he retreats implies that on some level he feared Amanda so he had some kind of history with her.
He probably always knew who she was and that she was his mother, I mean if his classmates knew he was the 'son of 100 maniacs' and the story and everything else well enough to tease him in school he probably knew the story as well. And if he didn't he could have found all the info he needed in old newspapers in the local library or something. I'm sure something would have been written about it or at least the town was talking about it, I mean his classmates had to get the information from somewhere.
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Post by Leatherface on Dec 4, 2010 20:59:47 GMT -5
Interesting. But how did he know where Wetsin was? Isn't it way outside of Springwood? And also how could he kill her without anyone noticing?
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Post by Rebel on Dec 4, 2010 22:40:34 GMT -5
The concept of flooding the dreams of a child is a brilliant concept. It's just not the best executed movie of the series. Freddy's makeup is not the best in this one but it has great Gothic scenery. I recommend the unrated VHS (it does not exist on DVD in this form), some epic intestine feeding
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Post by SleepawayCamp661 on Jul 18, 2012 22:21:41 GMT -5
The less we know the better But it is very interesting that we don't know as much about Freddy's life and I really hope no prequel or anything like that comes in the future.
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Post by fridayfan1979 on Jul 19, 2012 20:50:55 GMT -5
I'm all for a prequel, although I doubt we'll ever see one. Looks like Freddy actually is dead, atleast for now.
After having my Friday the 13th marathon, I think I'm going to have to have a Nightmare on Elm Street one soon. I've never done that, and it's been ages since I watched Part 4 and 5.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jul 20, 2012 3:23:47 GMT -5
I had a Nightmare on Elm Street marathon for the first time myself about a month and a half ago. The movies were more enjoyable that way. I found I could look past the corniness of the later movies a lot easier if I watched the good ones right before and just kept going. Freddy's Dead is still a tough watch but following it with New Nightmare made the whole marathon end well. I might have to do another Nightmare marathon soon myself.
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