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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 20, 2011 21:05:52 GMT -5
Don't get too excited though, as all they are doing is releasing the same bare bones releases in HD, and for all we know, the transfers could be crap. www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/24592/Halloween 6, H20 and HR are also on Blu-Ray from Echo Bridge, but they are also bare bones releases and H20 was cropped from its original aspect ratio. If you want releases that don't suck, get the Alliance triple pack. It was only released in Canada and can be purchased on Amazon.ca.
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Post by jlaw on May 21, 2011 1:33:22 GMT -5
My heart skipped a beat and then I read your "don't get too excited" lol. These are the type of films I really want to see on Blu-ray, as would many other horror fans like on this forum. It gives me hope for many other movies, but when I see the lazy and downright quick disgusting cash grab like this, I get worried about the quality and quantity of non-big release horror films ever making it to Blu-ray.
Even though my love affair exists the strongest with the original, I would love to see any of the Halloween sequels on Blu-ray just because I've watched them so many times that it would be different to see them look so good. But as you mentioned, the Echo Bridge releases are supposed to be pretty bad and the bare bones releases of these doesn't offer much hope. I mean, come on, Halloween II and III saw what, two release during the life of DVD and they have been bare bones. I'm not a huge fan of extras, as I tend to watch them never or just once, but the option would be nice. I'd prefer the extras for sure, instead of stupid DVD/digital combo packs.
I don't get why they don't put extras on these discs. They got to have stuff just laying around and since they rarely ever remaster it in HD as it is, how hard is it to just throw it on the disc? But in the end, I am most concerned with picture quality and if these are not up to snuff, I'll be pretty disappointed. Halloween 6-8 have two of the worst films in the franchise, but I would have run out to get those if they weren't different aspect ratios and subpar picture quality. Instead, I'll just have to wait until they're around the $5 mark, if ever.
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Post by d3M0n on May 22, 2011 9:34:09 GMT -5
Wow thats so sad... its nice to hear they care about upgrading the picture quality though! Maybe H2 and 3 will get an THX treatment!
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 9:49:14 GMT -5
I am anti Blu Ray ( TCM in HD just ruined it for me) but i'm glad 3 is getting good treatment for the most part.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 22, 2011 10:17:08 GMT -5
You do realize that you eventually won't have a choice when purchasing movies, right? Plus, you can't judge an entire format based on one release. There are thousands out there, and some are better then others. It all depends on the care (or lack of it) taken to each title.
As for H3 getting a good treatment, that isn't guaranteed yet.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 10:20:43 GMT -5
There's ebay. Blu-Ray is useless much like 3D. I hate how blu-ray films look, and I can always just get films off the internet for free.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 22, 2011 11:22:41 GMT -5
Have you seen any BD titles other then TCM? If not, you can't call the whole format useless. You do realize that it is much closer to the theatrical experience then standard DVD, right? That is the whole point of the format.
If Universal doesn't mess up, it will be very nice to see the Magic Pumpkin in high definition.
I find the digital copies to be useless. Having both formats comes in handy for me, as I watch a lot of movies on the computer and it doesn't have a BD player.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 11:23:43 GMT -5
I've seen other example sof Blu-Rays and it just doesn't look good to me personally. I don't see the necessity of a Blu-Ray player.
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Post by d3M0n on May 22, 2011 13:39:49 GMT -5
Bluray is absolutely necessary and a much needed improvement! Why are you saying this Leatherface? The only reason they were made is because the discs used for DVDs were inferior. They really didnt have any space on them. The compression they needed just to fit a mere 90 minute movie was ridiculous. The audio and visual were so compressed onto hat one little disc, that there was no true clarity in the picture. Bluray opens everything up. The sound of a movie is much richer and authentic to the recordings of it in the recording studio. The picture is basically as is was shot. The director wanted us to view it this way. They are thrilled about this new viewing experience really bringing their hard work to life.
The only thing DVDs had over Bluray is that 99% of the transfers had no issues. Especially played on a standard round back TV. All the transfers were just as they were on VHS but better. The downside of Bluray is that some transfers are amazing and some are a train wreck... you never know what youre gonna get.
As far as saying they are all bad because they are too perfect and take away the feel of the movie, that is BS. The only thing that does that is the cameras used to shoot the movies of today. When you dont use real film but instead digital cameras, you loose that filter that film provided to make it look like a movie. When things are like that they are too clear and you feel like youre really there and its just people acting. One perfect example of this is the movie Crazies remake. Even on DVD that movie looked too clear and fake. Same goes for the new Alice in Wonderland.
So it has nothing to do with Bluray. Seeing something in a clear focus and not compressed does nothing but enhance the movie experience. A perfect example is Friday the 13th Part 2. That movie looks exactly as the DVD but with more clarity and richer tones. The total feel of the 80's is intact.
The reason you NEED a Bluray player is because flatscreen TVs really show the poor quality of a DVD in general. Especially for older movies. They dont sell round back TVs anymore or at least they dont make them anymore. You will eventually have to upgrade. This is a strange debate because its like saying cassette tapes are better than CD's
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 13:50:54 GMT -5
I'm quite content with having VHS and DVD ( Yess I still have a VCR and works in prsitine conidtion). Yes I own a flatscreen TV and I don't mind how films look, I like it when older films aren't cleaned up because it feels authentic to me. For example Highlander. Highlander wasn't a big budgeted film and is one of my favorites. it came out in 1986 and when I watch the dvd and see the quality I don't mind it because it looks like the way it does back in 86. and when films start going out on blu-ray only, i'll just hit up the internet or netflix on my xbox. I don't have the money or intention to get a Blu-Ray player. I don't want to see a film like Star Wars a new hope in crystal clear pristine condition to the point where it looks odd to look at. I don't want to see Halloween to the point where we can make out Michael myers when he's in the shadows. I have never had a need to get blu-ray. And okay the film looks nicer ( though to me it looks weird and hard to describe) and it has all these special features ( taht I could just get off the internet if i did some digging) and frankly that's just a gimmick to me. I don't even like 3D films that much either and frankly I am content with seeing grainy looking films, as long as I can make out what is happening and t's fun to watch I don't give a crap what it looks like. And the VHS/DVD format is fine to me.
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Post by Rebel on May 22, 2011 14:15:04 GMT -5
I'mma be short and sweet. 1) I don't care about picture quality. 2) I don't care about updates 3) I don't caer what folks "think" I need 4) If other folks like something new, that's fine 5) Not everything looks better in a HD quality. 6) Some things probably do look better in an HD quality 7) I'm not paying for a flat screen TV 8) I watch most movies online anyway 9) I'm busy catching up on movies of the past 10) I hardly ever ever watch special features really so all that is just blah blah to me unless it's pretty damn special 11) I'm not rich. 1-5 dollars is greater than 25 dollars. The end
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Post by d3M0n on May 22, 2011 18:18:52 GMT -5
Well if thats your standards then thats your standards. Its like a guy who would rather date a 6 then a 9.5. Some guys dont care about looks as long as they both have the same quality in their personality contents, they will date the uglier girl.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 18:44:19 GMT -5
Sooo you're saying i like ugly chicks because of my prefrences of movie players?
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Post by jlaw on May 22, 2011 18:58:35 GMT -5
If anything, film grain is even stronger on a Blu-ray from what I've seen. That's why some people whine when they view an older title on Blu-ray and it's not "clean". I don't like when they screw with how the movie looks though. Like when they released Aliens, I'm pretty sure Cameron cleaned up all the film grain so it has that weird glossy digital look of films today...which is not cool.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 19:02:07 GMT -5
I like the film grain. It makes the film feel unique to me ya know.
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Post by d3M0n on May 22, 2011 19:16:14 GMT -5
Sooo you're saying i like ugly chicks because of my prefrences of movie players? No that was my analogy. I said it's like a guy who... I didnt say I bet you like ugly girls too.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 19:17:29 GMT -5
Oh, sorry I took it the wrong way.
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Post by jlaw on May 22, 2011 19:19:39 GMT -5
I like the film grain. It makes the film feel unique to me ya know. I do too man, I'm just saying Blu-ray seems to let the film grain be seen even more, so it's kind of odd you don't like it more.
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Post by Leatherface on May 22, 2011 19:24:01 GMT -5
I ahve Tim Burton's Batman 89 on VHS and the grain quality of it ( actually it's pretty good looking) makes it feel unique ya know. Sometimes HD isn't always the best IMO
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 22, 2011 19:36:29 GMT -5
The BD release of TCM brings out the grainy look of the film, so it is surprising that you are so dead set against the format. As much as you might want to desperately cling to your old fashioned technology, it quickly becoming obsolete. I was reading that BD sales are outselling their DVD counterpart at an increased rate.
At this point, it sounds like you are complaining just to complain. Do you have any stories about walking uphill to school with no shoes? You honestly sound like a senior citizen at this point.
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