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Post by Rebel on May 23, 2011 15:57:25 GMT -5
A CED is actually a format that has a vynl record inside of it. It is essentially a large floppy disc with that record inside. And Yes VHS is very relevent to me. Type in the name "Wizard Video" in to ebay and click on VHS and tell me what those prices are going for? This genre with that format is HIGHLY sought after. Especially that label. Charles Band created that label in the 80s.
I do not fear because probably next year Red Ray will be out and then Jeremy will be saying Blu Ray is obesete and will call everybody granny if they have it ;D
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 23, 2011 16:09:44 GMT -5
If VHS was relevant, you would find tapes of new releases in stores. At this point, as you indicated, they are collector's items that you buy from eBay sellers. Of course they are sought after, as no one makes them any more. High definition formats are here to stay, as they are closer the theatrical experience then VHS or DVD. What will change is the method of storage. Flash memory is dirt cheap now and one little memory stick can store quite a bit. Blu-Ray is way more affordable now. You can get popular titles for six bucks at Wal-Mart now and the players are under $100 a lot of the time. The most expensive part of the equation now is the actual TV, but even those prices are much more reasonable.
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Post by d3M0n on May 23, 2011 18:12:48 GMT -5
IF my life is so connected to the internet that I have to have it strapped to my arse 24/7 then I need to go see a shrink Now youre bashing millions of people lifestyles? You have no idea why those people want internet on their person. They could use it for business or school or social connections with promotional tools for their business. That's really out of line to say they all need shrinks. I'll pick whichever format I wish and bashing anybody who has a different preference over "what you think there preference should be" is just annoying. At least Jeremy and I are making valid factual points. You cant fight obsolete Rebel! If the format is dead, they arent going to produce new lines in a dead format! Why dont you take it a step further and collect Beta and 8-tracks? Yes there is a nostalgia factor in what youre doing. But its not a realistic hobby in terms of the future. Eventually you will have all the VHS titles you want. But what are you gonna do about movies that are made in 2015? I suppose youd buy the DVD? What if even those get phased out like round back TVs or phone without internet connection?
I could care less what you do. It wasnt me who started the whole idea of bashing Blurays. Jeremy and I are just giving logical reasons as to why they are a positive change to entertainment. If you wanna live in the stone age that's fine... but dont criticize people who embrace the pop culture. Maybe not everyone wants to be left behind in the dust and tumbleweeds with you.
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Post by Leatherface on May 23, 2011 18:21:00 GMT -5
Relax. It's just the way he wants to view films, is that honestly such a bad thing?
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 23, 2011 19:08:13 GMT -5
I will admit to owning a few rare VHS tapes, notably the Blockbuster Presents release of Halloween. For my dad's birthday, it went on eBay and got a very rare copy of a movie that my parents were extras in while they were in high school. That title never even made it to DVD.
However, there will come a time when everybody has to upgrade, whether they like it or not. You can't buy a new VHS player in stores anymore and when I have been in Best Buy, there aren't many standard DVD players on display.
Regarding this whole issue of smart phones and the internet, I don't have a smart phone, but what I do have is pretty close to one. I use it for Facebook and sports scores, which is quite handy for when I am not near a computer. It is unfair to judge people who embrace new technology.
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Post by Leatherface on May 23, 2011 19:25:03 GMT -5
Look, If he chooses to watch things on VHS then let him. So what if it'll be obselete. Who cares? It's just what he likes is that a crime? I don't think so.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 23, 2011 20:21:32 GMT -5
I have no issue with people who still watch VHS tapes. We have a VCR in storage because it doesn't work with our viewing setup. My parents still have one hooked up, although it is a pain to use.
What Demon was getting at is that clinging to obsolete technology can't last forever. I remember when my dad got a flat screen TV and we still had a bulky old one that you can't buy anymore. I was content with it at the time, but once I saw a Jays game in HD, I was hooked and wanted one.
Back when the electric guitar first came out, there was a ton of backlash, with the religious folk calling it an instrument of evil. People eventually changed their minds on that of course.
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Post by Leatherface on May 23, 2011 20:36:03 GMT -5
If Rebel wishes to hold on to obselete things then that is his choice and you shouldn't shove your opinioin down his throat. Just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
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Post by Rebel on May 25, 2011 16:24:41 GMT -5
I can't believe folks are literally bent out of shape that I actually collect rare and old movie formats. Calling me stone age, ancient, and all that BS. Cute guys really cute. I guess folks who collect old coins, stamps and cars should throw them away too right? *rolls eyes* Everybody has a preference but bashing that persons movie format preference isn't doing much good Life goes on. The end.
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Post by Leatherface on May 25, 2011 16:52:45 GMT -5
Thank you Rebel for having a mature attitude towards this. Like I said, it's your choice to have whatever you want.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 26, 2011 16:13:31 GMT -5
I can't believe folks are literally bent out of shape that I actually collect rare and old movie formats. Calling me stone age, ancient, and all that BS. Cute guys really cute. I guess folks who collect old coins, stamps and cars should throw them away too right? *rolls eyes* Everybody has a preference but bashing that persons movie format preference isn't doing much good Life goes on. The end. There is a difference between having a preference and having a collection. Someone on another board has over 50 VHS copies of Halloween III from all around the world, which I think is actually really interesting considering that a lot of them would be very hard to find. However, that person would also freely admit that the format is long dead and if they want to purchase any new copies of it, they would have to buy it on DVD or Blu-Ray. It is simply impossible to get anything made in the past several years on VHS. This is when your preference might not work with what is actually available. For example, people who enjoy the F13 reboot have to at least get it on DVD. A little research goes a long way. Seeing a movie in the theater is the true definition of high definition, while a DVD release loses a lot of that in the transfer. That effect is compounded even more in a VHS release, as it isn't even in the correct aspect ratio. Here is a review that is very appropriate to the board. www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews44/friday_the_13th_blu-ray.htm
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Post by d3M0n on May 30, 2011 7:00:43 GMT -5
Leatheface youre not making any sence whatsoever... You COMPLETELY missed the point of my post and lowered it to a cheap bashing of someone who doesn't move forward in their life (entertainment wise).
When clearly my intent was to point out the hipocracy in that camp as they demand to not be judged for their preference. Its ok for VHSers to say people with modern technology should see a shrink if they need this stuff.... Yet we are supposed to "let them be" and "live our lives" without worrying how poor the quality of their viewings are. BTW saying cant HD improve the storyline or acting is probably the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. Ummm if your looking for something to do that to your movies... maybe you should be more selective of what movies you buy there (whoever said that)... HD is great but it cant work miracles.
#1 We are living our lives. We dont care what you watch. Leatherface started this whole argument in the first place. Jeremy made an informative post about the great news for Halloween II and III fans. People who are interested in UP grading their collection can do that soon.
#2 Leatherface started the pissing contest and made negative comments about bluray.I am anti Blu Ray ( TCM in HD just ruined it for me) Blu-Ray is useless much like 3D. I hate how blu-ray films look No one asked him what he thought of HD in general. So Jer and I simply did was inform him of why technology is heading this way. We relayed the information the rest of the planet already realized about HD movies. If you guys were real trail blazers VHS would be making a huge comeback. So if anything you guys are attacking us! You are the minority here. If you were the majority there would be no argument. Clearly the majority of the planet wants better things as the world advances. If there are a few grumpy old men who don't, you are the ones who should keep it to yourselves. We shouldn't feel like we cant publicly celebrate such happy occasions.
Im not saying anymore on this ridiculous matter.
Either way... this thread was completely hijacked with this BS and now anyone going on it will be very disappointed in how little they learned about this release of H2 and H3.
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Post by Leatherface on May 30, 2011 11:12:13 GMT -5
I think it's best that we get back to the topic before this becomes an even bigger mess than it already is. Does anyone ahve any pics of the boxart for Halloween 2 and 3 on Blu-Ray? I'm curious to see what it looks like.
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Post by ÇŢ™ on May 30, 2011 13:15:06 GMT -5
I agree completely with Jeremy and d3mon.
There's nothing wrong with collecting and watching VHS and DVDs. I do that still as well. And there's nothing wrong with holding off on the switch until prices drop further.
And I won't even go as far as saying Blu-Rays are superior (I personally think they are) because I guess that all depends on what you are looking for in terms of picture quality and other things.
But you will need to make the switch at some point if you want to stay relevant in the world of film, even horror film. This isn't us putting down your traditions or way of life, it's just a simple fact. And as Jeremy touched on earlier, prices of both Blu-Rays and players are already down to what DVDs were just a few short years ago. I think most people made the switch to DVD before 2009, and we didn't all end up in the poorhouse did we? You can find used blu rays in good condition in the original case for less than $5 on amazon marketplace I buy em there all the time. If you want to wait that's your right and perfectly fine.
As for the Halloween 2 & 3 Blu Rays I'm kind of excited but interested in finding out about the transfer quality, but it sucks they're barebones releases.
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Post by Leatherface on May 30, 2011 13:33:49 GMT -5
I will eventually get one but as of right now i'm ok with what I got. What other Halloween's ahve been released on Blu-Ray and what specials they got?
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Post by d3M0n on May 30, 2011 14:05:38 GMT -5
On blu ray thus far for Halloween is 1,2,3,6,7,8,RZ1,RZ2. I believe you can only get 8 in Canada, I may be wrong. I have the Canadian 6 and 7. They are the amazing transfers. The recent USA transfers of 6 and 7 are disgusting from what i was told.
Of course in that list 2 and 3 will be here soon. Not here yet of course. I am excited for 4 because I think the quality can be a bit better than the DVIX DVD I have. I want a really clear picture of what was filmed those days and nights.
RZ2 really doesnt look WAY better on bluray because zombie shot it on a grainy film. Not in a HD camera. So the DVD and bluray arent very different.
Halloween 1 looks incredible on BluRay. Picture quality is 4.5 out of 5.
I believe the only time these films loose their feel (and this goes for all movies really) is when you watch them on a LED TV instead of a LCD or Plasma. LED makes every movie look like it was shot on a home video camera. Its very odd and doesnt sit well with my eyes. Thats just me though. It makes VHS look really good though.
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Post by Leatherface on May 30, 2011 14:10:50 GMT -5
That's what it was an LED tv, when I saw a blu ray film on LED it looked awful. And I actually like the way RZ 1 looks ( and yes I like RZ 1 too lol 2 is...well...it's like JGTH, stupid as hell but fun to watch).
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Post by Rebel on May 30, 2011 15:07:00 GMT -5
I still have yet to figure out how me collecting something is apparently causing a dick pee moment of anger in people. Me thinks I never said I "hated" technology but thanks for the words in my mouth Life goes on. Pick whatever you want. The end. For the second time I'm sure by the time I ever get a blu ray some other medium will be out and I'll be called archaic then too ;D EDIT: I typically stream new movies (and old if I can't find them) anyway. I'm cheap that way. Happy Memorial Day. Little old me is officially done on this thread. My coffee is calling me.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on May 30, 2011 15:50:34 GMT -5
In terms of box art for these releases, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same back and front cover as the DVD release. We all know how cheap Universal is when it comes to the Halloween movies.
Demon is correct regarding which Halloween movies are on BD right now. I am surprised that Anchor Bay/Starz isn't all over that for H4 and H5. That said, both films look flat and likely wouldn't be improved upon.
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Post by Leatherface on May 30, 2011 16:16:25 GMT -5
Until 4 comes out, i'm all good XD I LOVE 4
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