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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 2:30:46 GMT -5
Since it was mentioned in the Raw Smackdown thread and it only makes sense I'm going to make an official TNA wrestling thread. 90 percent of the last 2 weeks of the Raw Smackdown thread has been about TNA so this thread only makes perfect sense. LOL So if you want to discuss anything to do with TNA go ahead and put it here.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 2:57:06 GMT -5
Well I guess a good way to kick off the thread would be this.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 5:41:39 GMT -5
Angle in TNA!
Jarrett has a serious challenge ahead of him.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 6:40:38 GMT -5
I think all the wrestlers do once he's able to wrestle. I can just think of all the cool matches there can be now. Angle vs. Jarrett of course. Angle vs. Sting. Angle vs. Samoa Joe. Angle vs. Christopher Daniels. Angle vs. A.J. Styles. Angle vs. Abyss etc. There are all sorts of great match possibilities. But of course we need to wait awhile for any of them. He's still injured and needs time to heal. I do know he's going to be the special enforcer for the upcoming Sting Versus Jarrett match at Bound For Glory their next PPV. Sure it sucks having to wait to see any of the matches. But I'm willing to wait and let him properly rehab his injuries. He'll still be able to make video appearances or maybe actual appearances on iMPACT! but actual wrestling is out for awhile until he's doing better physically. I am glad though that he decided on TNA. With their easier schedule it should be easier on his body and give him more time with his family and that is a good thing.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 7:30:18 GMT -5
According to his publicist, he was a burned out 220 pounds when he left WWE, and he is now a healthy 240 pounds.
He looks to be close to his biggest, which was 255 pounds playing high school football.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 7:50:43 GMT -5
According to his publicist, he was a burned out 220 pounds when he left WWE, and he is now a healthy 240 pounds. He looks to be close to his biggest, which was 255 pounds playing high school football. Oh there is no doubt he's in much better condition than he was when he left the WWE about a month or so ago. But he had a lot of injuries to heal from. I know he had a groin tear that was described as torn completely off the bone. He also had some tears in his stomach muscle and back I believe. But you can blame a lot of that on the WWE schedule he was on. Because he was working through the groin injury for awhile and it lead to the other injuries for compensating. The way I understand it is he had a slight groin injury that was getting worse but worked through it because ECW just started up and they wanted him to help launch the rebirth of that company. Then at an ECW house show he finished off the injury by completely tearing it from the bone but he decided to try and finish the match. That led to the stomach and back tears for trying to compensate for the injury. He's been away from wrestling and rehabbing the injuries now for around 5 or so weeks now. Obviously the time away from the ring and not having to wrestle every night has helped quite a bit. Like you said he looks a lot better than he did. But it still takes longer than 5 weeks to heal from those types of injuries. I'd say he's a good month at least away from ring action. But he will definitely be doing at the very least video appearance if not actual appearances on iMPACT! and will be involved in the main event at the next PPV that TNA has. Like I said I don't want them to rush him coming in. Not at the risk of his health. I'd rather he takes his time and rehabs the injuries properly. Because it will make his in ring come back and his continuing in ring career that much better.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 8:42:39 GMT -5
I agree that a slow build-up to his first match would be preferable. He should give Jeff Jarrett an Angle slam.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 10:02:54 GMT -5
I agree that a slow build-up to his first match would be preferable. He should give Jeff Jarrett an Angle slam. I can just see it. Jarrett goes for his famous guitar shot but misses. Angle kicks him in the stomach causing him to drop the guitar. Angle picks him up and Angle slams him head first onto his own guitar. Now that would be awesome poetic justice.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 11:09:23 GMT -5
I agree that a slow build-up to his first match would be preferable. He should give Jeff Jarrett an Angle slam. I can just see it. Jarrett goes for his famous guitar shot but misses. Angle kicks him in the stomach causing him to drop the guitar. Angle picks him up and Angle slams him head first onto his own guitar. Now that would be awesome poetic justice. After that, Jarrett can get suplexed around for the next 30 minutes straight. Someone else needs to be the TNA champion.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 26, 2006 12:06:12 GMT -5
I can just see it. Jarrett goes for his famous guitar shot but misses. Angle kicks him in the stomach causing him to drop the guitar. Angle picks him up and Angle slams him head first onto his own guitar. Now that would be awesome poetic justice. After that, Jarrett can get suplexed around for the next 30 minutes straight. Someone else needs to be the TNA champion. I have a feeling Jarrett won't be NWA champ much longer. He's got too many people gunning for it now. Sting is the next in line at Bound for Glory. I think he'll probably take it from him. If not by then he'll have Samoa Joe, Christian Cage, Abyss, Monty Brown and of course a freshly healed and rested Kurt Angle all wanting a shot at him. I really think Sting will take it from him. so all of the people I mentioned will be after him then. I'm happy that TNA is going to Primetime soon. I think that was awesome news for TNA and to have it announced the same night they signed Angle really made it a great night for TNA. With those two things their ratings are sure to increase by quite a bit. Which is great. Because the better they do in ratings the more great signings they can have. I'm really excited about TNA's future.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 12:50:18 GMT -5
Jarrett could be in in a top level fued without being champ.
I read that Raven is really fat now due to his thyroid being destroyed by drugs. Is this true?
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Post by plushtar on Sept 26, 2006 16:40:05 GMT -5
Jarrett could be in in a top level fued without being champ. I read that Raven is really fat now due to his thyroid being destroyed by drugs. Is this true? Buy the DVD Forever Hardcore. Raven goes into detail about his drug abuse during his Johnny Polo days and how it almost cost him his job at ECW. His whole act in ECW was not an act; he really was a drugged out loser. Raven, like Jake Roberts, is a medical enigma for surviving years of heavy drug abuse. I think Double J should start transitioning into a jobber to the stars. His peak years are over and the fans hate him for the wrong reasons. He can redeem himself by putting over Abyss, Joe, Rhino, Bobby Roode and Monty Brown. We could see that he was trying during his Christian feud. Also, he should bring in other indy talent (sorry I don't know any names right now) and put them over before the WWE gets their hands on them. Also in line for a (midcard) push are Petey Williams, Jay Lethal, Senshi, and Alex Shelley. The only things holding these men back is not talent, but personality. I have always heard mean things about Low-Ki (Senshi) in real life, maybe he could incorporate that into his current act. As for the Tag ranks, the Dudleyz need to turn heel in order to regain the edge that they had in ECW. "Tables" and "wassup" really made them look goofy. I am really impressed by LAX's current run, at first I was offended by the political overtones of the act, but their matches are really pushing it far away from who they really are; Konnan is an excellent mouth piece, Homicide is excellent at playing a sick man, and the herculean strenght of Hot-Stuff Hernandez is pretty damned scary (I love that border toss).
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 26, 2006 16:43:34 GMT -5
Jarrett could be in in a top level fued without being champ. I read that Raven is really fat now due to his thyroid being destroyed by drugs. Is this true? Buy the DVD Forever Hardcore. Raven goes into detail about his drug abuse during his Johnny Polo days and how it almost cost him his job at ECW. His whole act in ECW was not an act; he really was a drugged out loser. Raven, like Jake Roberts, is a medical enigma for surviving years of heavy drug abuse. I think Double J should start transitioning into a jobber to the stars. His peak years are over and the fans hate him for the wrong reasons. He can redeem himself by putting over Abyss, Joe, Rhino, Bobby Roode and Monty Brown. We could see that he was trying during his Christian feud. Also, he should bring in other indy talent (sorry I don't know any names right now) and put them over before the WWE gets their hands on them. Also in line for a (midcard) push are Petey Williams, Jay Lethal, Senshi, and Alex Shelley. The only things holding these men back is not talent, but personality. I have always heard mean things about Low-Ki (Senshi) in real life, maybe he could incorporate that into his current act. As for the Tag ranks, the Dudleyz need to turn heel in order to regain the edge that they had in ECW. "Tables" and "wassup" really made them look goofy. I am really impressed by LAX's current run, at first I was offended by the political overtones of the act, but their matches are really pushing it far away from who they really are; Konnan is an excellent mouth piece, Homicide is excellent at playing a sick man, and the herculean strenght of Hot-Stuff Hernandez is pretty damned scary (I love that border toss). On one message board, they said Raven was 270+ pounds now. Where can I find recent pics of him?
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Post by plushtar on Sept 26, 2006 21:02:08 GMT -5
I've seen the spoilers from the Wrestlecrap forum; here is the basics without giving away too much:
- Team 3D returns and has a face off with the Franchise - Samoa Joe battles Raven - Jim Cornette promo* - Fans chant "No more Jackass" at Chris Sabin. - The NWA title is given more importance - James Mitchell promo - LAX promo complaining about their loss, vowing revenge.
*Is it just me, or is anoyone else sick of authority figures in wrestling?
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 27, 2006 1:30:55 GMT -5
I've seen the spoilers from the Wrestlecrap forum; here is the basics without giving away too much: - Team 3D returns and has a face off with the Franchise - Samoa Joe battles Raven - Jim Cornette promo* - Fans chant "No more Jackass" at Chris Sabin. - The NWA title is given more importance - James Mitchell promo - LAX promo complaining about their loss, vowing revenge. *Is it just me, or is anoyone else sick of authority figures in wrestling? I'm sick of "Evil" authority figures. What Cornette has been doing has been great. But having a bad guy as the boss got old years ago. Especially once they started getting involved physically like McMahon loves to do.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 27, 2006 1:39:42 GMT -5
Buy the DVD Forever Hardcore. Raven goes into detail about his drug abuse during his Johnny Polo days and how it almost cost him his job at ECW. His whole act in ECW was not an act; he really was a drugged out loser. Raven, like Jake Roberts, is a medical enigma for surviving years of heavy drug abuse. I think Double J should start transitioning into a jobber to the stars. His peak years are over and the fans hate him for the wrong reasons. He can redeem himself by putting over Abyss, Joe, Rhino, Bobby Roode and Monty Brown. We could see that he was trying during his Christian feud. Also, he should bring in other indy talent (sorry I don't know any names right now) and put them over before the WWE gets their hands on them. Also in line for a (midcard) push are Petey Williams, Jay Lethal, Senshi, and Alex Shelley. The only things holding these men back is not talent, but personality. I have always heard mean things about Low-Ki (Senshi) in real life, maybe he could incorporate that into his current act. As for the Tag ranks, the Dudleyz need to turn heel in order to regain the edge that they had in ECW. "Tables" and "wassup" really made them look goofy. I am really impressed by LAX's current run, at first I was offended by the political overtones of the act, but their matches are really pushing it far away from who they really are; Konnan is an excellent mouth piece, Homicide is excellent at playing a sick man, and the herculean strenght of Hot-Stuff Hernandez is pretty damned scary (I love that border toss). On one message board, they said Raven was 270+ pounds now. Where can I find recent pics of him? Here's a pic of him from the September 14th iMPACT! And this is from Augusts Hard Justice PPV.
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Post by plushtar on Oct 6, 2006 19:33:19 GMT -5
My thoughts on TNA for the past two weeks:
- TNA's reduced schedule will be perfect for Kurt Angle. I only hope that he takes the Jeff Jarrett route and attempts to elevate talent. - I normally like Sting, but he hasn't elevated anyone. - Eric Young is a great talent, but his coward gimmick is a little lame. This firing could be great for him. - TNA has actually forgotten the X-Division. During the X-Division tag match, the focus was on Rhino and Christian. If they don't remedy this, TNA could lose many young up and coming stars. - I'll say it again, LAX make perfect heels for Daniels and Styles. - Even though the NWA title situation hurts Jeff Jarrett, it is once again elevating two great young talents (Joe & Abyss), two established guys (Raven & Christian), and someone who needs to get away from the world's strongest munchking gimmick (Lil' Spike Dudley). As much as I love Joe's whole act, I want to see Abyss to be the one that ends his streak (twice in a row). - Bobby Roode is another great underpushed talent. He has a young Arn Anderson feel to him.
One last thing, since MTV's little wrestling promotion is going nowhere, I say that TNA snatch up Teddy Hart and Jack Evans as soon as possible. TNA also needs to dig up Roderick Strong.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Oct 7, 2006 19:02:35 GMT -5
My thoughts on TNA for the past two weeks: - TNA's reduced schedule will be perfect for Kurt Angle. I only hope that he takes the Jeff Jarrett route and attempts to elevate talent. - I normally like Sting, but he hasn't elevated anyone. - Eric Young is a great talent, but his coward gimmick is a little lame. This firing could be great for him. - TNA has actually forgotten the X-Division. During the X-Division tag match, the focus was on Rhino and Christian. If they don't remedy this, TNA could lose many young up and coming stars. - I'll say it again, LAX make perfect heels for Daniels and Styles. - Even though the NWA title situation hurts Jeff Jarrett, it is once again elevating two great young talents (Joe & Abyss), two established guys (Raven & Christian), and someone who needs to get away from the world's strongest munchking gimmick (Lil' Spike Dudley). As much as I love Joe's whole act, I want to see Abyss to be the one that ends his streak (twice in a row). - Bobby Roode is another great underpushed talent. He has a young Arn Anderson feel to him. One last thing, since MTV's little wrestling promotion is going nowhere, I say that TNA snatch up Teddy Hart and Jack Evans as soon as possible. TNA also needs to dig up Roderick Strong. I think the reduced schedule is definitely going to help Angle. I like the fact they are going the slow burn route with this. They could have rushed it and brought him out right after the PPV 2 weeks ago and started him wrestling right away. But instead they've done the right thing letting him stay home and rest and keep training/heal. They've just been showing videos. His first "Real" appearance wont be until next week and even tat wont be in a wrestling capacity. So that's a plus too. His first semi physical thing is supposed to be the upcoming PPV Bound For Glory where he'll be a outside the ring special enforcer. I like this very much. Because it give Angle plenty of time to heal completely before he gets back in the ring. TNA is doing this smart and I say Kudos to them for doing it this way. It's also smart from a booking standpoint because it builds up the fans anticipation for when he does have his first actual match. In order to make it special. Yeah Sting definitely hasn't been used right. He's needed to spend more time elevating new talent and less time on Jarrett. Hopefully if they do sign him to a second year they go that route. I don't know if you could call Eric Young's character a coward. Spooked is more like it. And that's died down into him being afraid of losing his job. Then he's shown abit of backbone by saying no to Jarrett. One things for sure he's one of the most over people on the show. I think the firing angle is a good direction to take him. Because it leaves you wondering where he can go from here. I think the thing hurting the X-division is the lack of personality with a lot of the performers and not enough time during the week for them to develop them. When TNA had 2 hour PPV's they had more time for that sort of thing so it was better. I think once TNA gets a second hour it will definitely help that division. Who are they going to lose them to? The WWE? The WWE has no interest in the X-Division people. They aren't big enough. Look how the WWE treats their cruiserweights. LAX are an awesome team and this is the best stuff Konnan has ever sounded. They could feud with Daniels and Styles for a decade and I wouldn't mind. LOL I would love it if it was Abyss that ended Joe's streak. Unfortunately I don't see him being the one they choose. TNA seems to see Abyss as the man to yo yos far as pushes go. Which is a shame because in my mind he's the best big man in the business and the best we've seen since Andre. He can work so many styles and with anybody. He's my favorite wrestler right now and has been for a couple years. He just amazes me every time I see him. And putting him with James Mitchell was pure genius. I think Bobby Roode is pretty special but I'm setting myself up for a disappointment when it comes to the manager thing they've been doing lately. They've been bringing out the best ever and he's been turning them all down. I have a bad feeling he's going to pick someone underwhelming like Tracey. Which would just make him look stupid when he's had such great choices. I'm pretty sure Teddy Hart has signed a developmental contract with the WWE. I could be wrong though. As for Evans I could definitely see him in TNA. But I think they are pretty much waiting for a second hour before they sign too many more names.
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Post by plushtar on Oct 9, 2006 13:20:23 GMT -5
I meant several things by losing X-Division stars:
1. The WWE can sign them and give them each a Cruiserweight title reign 2. WWE signs them and forgets to bring them out of OVW. 3. WWE signs them and gives them a decent push (CM Punk) 4. Other indy promotions pick them up 5. They can go to Japan and/or Canada to make money.
This can only happen in the X-Division guys get frustrated.
====================================================================== TNAWrestling.com is reporting that Angle will be speaking about his former employer.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Oct 9, 2006 16:53:11 GMT -5
I agree they TNA has forgotten about the X-Division. I have been reading some of the recaps, and are indeed being treated like WWE treats their cruiserweights.
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