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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Aug 31, 2007 18:23:18 GMT -5
Tonight August 31st Halloween the remake is in theaters. If you have seen it please post here with your review and rating. Please don't post any major spoilers before September 4th. Give people through the Labor Day Weekend to see it. If you do post spoilers they will be removed from your post. But feel free to put them back after the 4th.
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Post by T I M™ on Aug 31, 2007 21:30:09 GMT -5
I loved the beginning, but I wasn't too happy about the middle or ending. Michael was bad ass through out the movie but he never really seem to want to kill Laurie and there were alot of scenes that where not shown in the remake that are in the original. But Rob did make Michael scary again. There where alot moments that made me jump! After see that, I'll never look at Michael the same way again!
I give it a 4 out of 5.
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Post by count6string on Aug 31, 2007 21:34:27 GMT -5
I will keep this short and sweet for now. There were parts I really liked and parts I did not like. I'm a bit torn. I liked the locations and the cast. The music was very good if not exactly as the original. I agree Michael was bad ass that is for sure. The feel and editing felt a little forced but, I kept up with it. I think the fans of the original might look at this as parody rather than a remake or a revision. I'm going to give it a solid 3 out of 5.
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Post by Mrs. Count on Aug 31, 2007 21:55:16 GMT -5
As a big fan of the origional,I am VERY torn with this one. I'm really not quite sure if I liked it or not. I agree that Michael was more brutal. I did not like all the gore though. I cringed a few times, but wasn't really scared, I didn't jump once. I was kinda sad during the movie... I was not very happy when I first heard Rob Zombie was directing it, I didn't like House of a 1000 Corpses or Devil's Reject's. I didn't think he was the one to be doing it. Then I read a script, sounded okay. I saw a trailer, renewed hope. Saw some clips about a week ago and a new trailer and got really exited. But in the end I was disappointed. I can't really say what I have a problem with the most, I have to think about it awhile...
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Post by Colt .45 on Aug 31, 2007 22:57:41 GMT -5
WOW! Just WOW! HalloweeN lived all the way up to my expectations and then some! The beginning was insane to say the least. The little Mike scenes are priceless. Daeg played a good michael. I really think Tyler is a great michael. This michael is brutal as hell folks! Scout....Well, what can i say about Scout other then I THINK SHE WAS AMAZING as laurie. Im very glad she was casted. The music, charectors, the setting, the whole atmosphere was just unbeleiveable! The only reason i gave it 4.5 out of 5 was because it was paced very fast. Long live the halloween Legacy. Just remember to NOT think about the ORIGINAL or you WILL ruin your experience. Expect a full review after the 4th.
8/31/07....A date that will live in horror history ♥
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Post by FridayFreak on Aug 31, 2007 23:54:08 GMT -5
Go into the movie with an open mind. Everyone knows (even the makers) that it will not compare to the original. nothing will. Dont try to compare it! I went to see this movie for enjoyment, not to compare it to the original.....
That being said, I really enjoyed the movie. Yes there was some over the top language and sexual references, but I expected that, being a Rob Zombie film. I dont pay attention to acting. so I wont go over that. But there was a good body count, a couple of familiar scenes from the original, and nicely updated gore. I also like that they spent more time on young michael. The music was great also, from the main theme to the chase scenes to the creepy background stuff, they didnt stray from the original, just added enough flair to make it updated As for the mask....I am back and forth. I wasnt sure about how they had it first appear in the movie, but they do explain how it got the new look. I did like the way it looked, again like the movie it wont compare to the origianl, but it was a cool creepy mask. Tastefully updated!
I liked the Chainsaw remakes better. That probably means that I like Michael Bay movies better than Zombie films......
I give it a 4. I did enjoy it as a horror fan.
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 1, 2007 0:47:38 GMT -5
I will repost my message from this morning.
Well I also am a hardocre fan of the orignal, I flip flop between Halloween and Friday the 13th parts 1 and 2 as my all time favorite slasher. I really liked this movie. I did not like the stepdad(Forsythe) with the over the top language in the first 5 minutes which had half the theater cracking up. I did not like maybe 2 more things about the plot.
I enjoyed the rest. Michael was aggressive, reminded me of zombie Jason kind of which did not bother me, I thought the mask was great personally, the best one since the original.
I liked Loomis and Tommy Doyle as the closest to the original I wasnt sure about Laurie her first few minutes on screen but warmed up to her. Good gore is also a plus and a high body count. Most important though, Michael is scary again. Not the joke that he was since part 2 for different reasons.
Thats all for now. 4 stars. I'll have more to say tonight.
EDIT
One more quick thing, DO not compare or you will ruin your expereince. Just go in the theater with an open mind and view this as a stand alone movie. People actually applauded when this movie ended last night. That doesnt happen a whole lot when I go anymore.
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Post by Xч on Sept 1, 2007 4:16:18 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed about this remake,First time in all my 27 years of living and 20 some odd years of being a very very hardcore horror fan this ever happened when i saw a horror film..
It was completely unnecessary to remake Carpenters masterpiece. From the beginning of the film i was turned off by all the foul language. Something you never found in the original.
Also please note that nothing really new was found in this film..All the best scenes found in the original is also found in the remake..even up to the sheets in glasses scene.Even the "Totally" lines,that was not acted well at all was in it. Every single cast from devils rejects was in this movie..that alone made the film unbelievable.
I rate this a 0
Let me tell ya,when i got home i hugged all the copies of John Carpenters One and only Halloween.. I love the film even more now after seeing Zombies garbage. -XN _____________________________________________________ That is all i wanted to say.. Halloween is a dangerous domain to enter...Its a classic (Other Dangerous movies not to be remade by Rob Zombie: Friday The 13th, Nightmare on elm street,Hellraiser with Hellraiser i have a little bit of hope sense Clive is writing the script,Child's Play,Candyman and many others) Rob Zombie should have never did this..If he just went and made Halloween 9 i would have liked it much much better..than this remake..No sense and no continuity at all.
Rob is a great man..god knows i love his first 2 original films..House and rejects..But it seems he can not make anything else nowadays..just like his music..the same stuff over and over and over again. ____________________________________________________ With the folks who love this movie,It's cool..
Halloween 9 would have been a better idea..
Not Carpenter's classic...not Carpenter's Classic at all..no _____________________________________________________ If you love the movie thats your opinion... I certainly respect that You either love it or hate it....
Update:I still feel the same way i did when i first wrote this. The theatrical version just isn't my cup of tea at all. Now since i have the unrated dvd i rate it 3/10
Its just another Zombie Movie to me.Hopefully in the future he can redeem himself by makinga movie everybody enjoys.
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Post by fridayfan1979 on Sept 1, 2007 7:57:21 GMT -5
I really don't know where to begin with this review. I'm not sure that I can say I hated the film, but I really didn't like it either. Too many things bothered me about the picture. As XN said, the language was a bit much. Normally it wouldn't have bothered me, but it just didn't fit in a Halloween film. Of course, based on Zombie's other pictures, I should have expected it. Also, as Mrs. Count mentioned the gore was a bit too much. Once again, I'm usually not going to complain about a gory movie as some of my favorite movies are extremely bloody, but it just didn't work here. I also didn't like how they tried to explain Michael being the way he is by saying it's because his mother was a stripper, his father a drunk, and because he got picked on in school. I prefer the original, where Michael is just purely and simply evil, no explanation needed. Maybe I have such a problem with this film because I'm trying to compare it to the original, which is just about as close to perfection as a film can be IMO. Maybe with another viewing I may appreciate the film more, but right now I really can't say that I'm a fan.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 1, 2007 9:02:32 GMT -5
Good points The mask was perfect White masked Michael was perfect The kid Michael was perfect The kills as a kid were great The music during intense scenes were great Loomis was great The step dad was great
Bad points Rob had no idea where to drop Carpenters classic score Michael looked like a retarded Kane (WWF) before he got the white mask. The break out scene was horrible and dragged on The 3 girls were assholes and Lynda and Annie were just two bitches you cant even feel sorry for... The ending was dreadful... I couldn't believe what I was watching when he was searching for her inthe walls and ceiling... The cursing only worked with the stepdad... other then that it was forced. Laurie and the kids hiding in the bathtub was dreadful and really brought the best scene of the movie to a halt. The killing of Laurie's parents was too much, I began to wonder why he's even killing people at that point. The older Michael kills were lame. The only good one was Bobs kill.
Overall I can only say it had its good points and bad points. They rushed scenes that should have been slower. The dragged scenes that should have been rushed. The classic music doesn't fit this movie. The ending sequence starting with the kids and Laurie in the bath tub till the end was a total let down.
No one wanted this to be great more then me... well maybe Colt too! LOL However much like XN I hugged my Halloween DVD when I got home and realized you just cant remake this movie. Even though I separated the two while watching it, I couldn't help but realize afterwords how amazing it really make the original look. I rate this 2.5 which makes it a 3.
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Post by FreddyJasonV on Sept 1, 2007 12:26:49 GMT -5
I loved the remake, even though it'll never be as good as the original. They never are. But it did have its good and bad points. This one DID scare me, as in I turned on every light when I got home. Guess it was just how shaky I was when I got home. I have to agree, Rob didn't drop the music score very well in thisat some points. I kept expecting the music at one point and then it'd randomly show up. I loved how they showed young Michael, even if it wasn't official it made me feel pity for young Michael. I nearly laughed when Laurie and the kids hid in the bathtub. Wouldn't it be obvious he'd find you right away?? Laurie and her friends acted like total idiots. In the original I cheered Jamie Lee Curtis on, but in this I was almost rooting for Michael to shut her up... Rob missed some major points from the original, which I thought he would've had in it. Like the very ending of the original. I was a little disappointed, but when I didn't compare them, I loved the movie. I see this one as a seperate version. 4.5/5
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Post by Rich on Sept 1, 2007 12:34:44 GMT -5
This movie was a steaming pile of...well...you know the rest.
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Post by Kwik Kash on Sept 1, 2007 17:54:33 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with Demon, especially his negative points of the film. I felt that Zombie should have just made another killer, not Michael Myers, as this is what it felt like when I took the advice of several members to not compare it to the original. But it was hard, especially hearing the music and seeing the mask.
To me it doesn't make sense why Zombie did this, other than to show his love for the film or to make some quick money. I felt that Zombie, as mentioned in my previous paragraph, could have gotten away with doing his own original killer. As I said before, I felt no pity for Laurie, Michael's family, and in fact it made Michael's killings all justified in a wicked sort of sense. Unlike the original film, it seemed Rob wanted you to accept Michael's state of being instead of being frightened by his unexplained motives.
I gave this film a 0, all because Zombie should have started from scratch and left this alone. About the only good thing from this will be a renewed interest in Halloween and Horror movies in general, so maybe that will bring new members to the genre, this message board, and perhaps inspire more films that (and I pray) are better.
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 1, 2007 19:16:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry I just dont understamd why people were ok with the TCM and DOTD remakes and not this. They were both different than the originals and yet did a good job st changing it up a little. If Zombie would have made it the same movie scene for scene like Psycho and The Omen people would have bitched about it too. fact is Michael was the most intense killer I have seen in a long time and thats fine with me. It was better than every other sequel except part II. I really dont know how anyone can see different.
I love the orignal classic to death, just love that movie. In my eyes, Zombie is 3 for 3 with this remake though. I think it was good horror, simple as that. So many people wanted to hate this movie looooong before it came out and I bet there was not one single convert.
Oh well, people are just harder to please these days and its cool I guess to hate on anything mainstream in horror now. I dunno, it just frustrates me.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 1, 2007 19:21:40 GMT -5
Sorry man what can I say? I feel guilty for not liking it... I hate peopel who bitch about stuff... I KNOW horror fans are NEVER happy since 1988....
I hate to fall in that catagorey... but what can I say? I just didnt think it was good...
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Post by Kwik Kash on Sept 1, 2007 19:25:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry I just dont understamd why people were ok with the TCM and DOTD remakes and not this. They were both different than the originals and yet did a good job st changing it up a little. If Zombie would have made it the same movie scene for scene like Psycho and The Omen people would have bitched about it too. fact is Michael was the most intense killer I have seen in a long time and thats fine with me. It was better than every other sequel except part II. I really dont know how anyone can see different.
I love the orignal classic to death, just love that movie. In my eyes, Zombie is 3 for 3 with this remake though. I think it was good horror, simple as that. So many people wanted to hate this movie looooong before it came out and I bet there was not one single convert.
Oh well, people are just harder to please these days and its cool I guess to hate on anything mainstream in horror now. I dunno, it just frustrates me. I think Rob Zombie is a good guy, and he does have some talent. It's just that most of his movies don't invoke anything special from me, but this movie isn't the worst thing I've ever seen. I don't think they gave enough time and development to the victims, they made Michael out to be the good guy and that right there just made it hard to swallow. However, Michael being brutal was rather uncalled for, considering he's already viewed in a sympathetic light. If we did not know his motive, maybe I'd feel more comfortable with him smashing through walls. I'm looking at this like any movie, did the characters have any connection to me before their demise or sufferings? Unfortunately, no. Rob Zombie is good with shock value and brutality, but he seems to lack connectivity between the victims and their predators.
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 1, 2007 19:27:15 GMT -5
Sorry man what can I say? I feel guilty for not liking it... I hate peopel who bitch about stuff... I KNOW horror fans are NEVER happy since 1988....
I hate to fall in that catagorey... but what can I say? I just didnt think it was good... Hey brother, no apologies needed for me. All I want to know is did you actually prefer TCM or any other remake to this one? Thats the only thing I cant shake.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 1, 2007 19:32:34 GMT -5
TCM is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better remake then Halloween...
I LOVE most remakes... i DONT CARE if they are remakes... its not about that...
H07 is just not good... sorry it's just not (to me)...
This has nothing to do with it being a remake... he just dropped the ball... I just feel that way...
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 1, 2007 21:29:24 GMT -5
Demon, you didn't fail anyone.
You didn't like it and you gave your honest opinion.
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Post by FridayFreak on Sept 2, 2007 4:01:25 GMT -5
I can agree that Zombie gave too much to "explain" why michael was the way he is. Although it was nice to see more of a younger michael in the movie, He didnt have to give a reason for his evil. ALso, the ending did not sit well with me either. One of the things I was waiting to see was them look where he should be lying and see that he was gone......
I still liked the movie, very much, just had to touch on those things....
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