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Post by fridayfan1979 on Sept 2, 2007 7:52:25 GMT -5
I went into the theater really wanting to like this film. I enjoyed both House of 1,000 Corpses and The Devil's Rejects. I like Rob Zombie. I feel like he is a true horror fan...one of us. Maybe with subsequent viewings, I might like Halloween '07 as well. This happened with Dawn of the Dead '78 for me. When I first watched it, I wasn't a fan. Now, after having viewed it atleast a dozen times, it's one of my favorite horror films ever. For now, I'll just say the jury is still out on H07 for me.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 2, 2007 15:24:19 GMT -5
I really think you'd enjoy the other version more Greg.
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Post by plushtar on Sept 2, 2007 15:42:37 GMT -5
Good but not great film. I would gladly use this film to wipe out the existances of 7 & 8. When the temporary ban on spoilers gets lifted, I will go into detail on why I gave this film a 3.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 2, 2007 20:50:52 GMT -5
A let down.
That about sums it up.
The actors had nothing to work with, and I didn't even like Scout as Laurie that much.
The writing was sub par, and the pacing sucked most of the time.
Malcolm is a good actor, but not a good Loomis.
It failed as a slasher, and it failed as a Halloween movie.
Still, it was better then H5 and H8.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 3, 2007 3:45:38 GMT -5
Well I got back from seeing the theatrical version. Like I thought it wasn't as good as the work print version. I like how he escaped better and the ending better in that version. I could actually see where they made cuts. And it really screwed things up. I would rate that version a solid 3. This one about a 2-2.5. I though McDowell was great as Loomis. He was one of the few things I actually liked about the film. Maybe due to being one of the only ones with character development. If they had cut the child hood Michael down by about 20 minutes and moved that time over to after his escape then I think it would have been a much better film.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 3, 2007 23:43:19 GMT -5
just saw it, its 12:30, I'm tried so I'm just going to make it short, I hated this movie, I realize that it wasn't supossed to be a remake so I can't go off on that, but still this movie just sucks. Rob Zombie is a fool, his added mix onto Halloween is just awful, between all the swearing and nudity you kinda forget your watching a horror. there where few parts that scared me. About half through the movie I really just felt like leaving. so many things about this movie are wrong and I just don't want to get into them, but if theres just one I can point out is how the fu*k can you kill off Dr. Lommis? not even that but basiclly the entire cast is killed off, some scenes made me laugh just to know how low Rob Zombie went with this movie 2/5 and thats being kind
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Post by Kwik Kash on Sept 4, 2007 0:43:06 GMT -5
The one positive thing to the people killed off, it'll make it harder to produce a "respectable" sequel, if they go that route.
We all see how Halloween is doing without Loomis, they are trying to fill the gap with Busta Rhymes and all kinds of people. I can only imagine who Zombie would use to fill that gap, probably Justin Timberlake as Loomis Jr or something, lol.
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Post by The Final Chapter on Sept 4, 2007 1:09:12 GMT -5
Honestly, I went on opening night and was majorly disppointed. There seemed to be too much attention being placed on Michael as a child. It overshadowed most of the movie. It also seemed to me that they were going for a Texas Chainsaw Massacre look with Michael. I don't know, and can only speak for myself, but I would take the original ANYDAY. The acting of the main charecters was amateurish, and the young Michael Myers looked shockingly similar to Jodie Foster, did anyone else notice that he looked alot like her at that same age? Two Thumbs down.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Sept 4, 2007 5:48:10 GMT -5
Actually they could just say Loomis didn't die. Sure Michael attacked him. And it looked like he hurt him enough to kill him. But they could always say he was just really badly hurt and healed.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 4, 2007 6:11:15 GMT -5
Scout isn't signed for a sequel, and all options (for more movies) were signed before reshoots -- i.e., before Loomis was killed and Michael's head was blown off.
Plus, one of the Weinsteins (who are in control), has said that they won't make any more for "a long time" and if so, any other movies would be "very. very different."
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Post by plushtar on Sept 4, 2007 8:09:21 GMT -5
Even though Donald Pleasance cannot be replaced, McDowell made the role his own. I also loved the excessively brutal Michael who apparently ate Jason to gain his strength.
As for what I didn't, there are many things. Sadly, only the aging janitor was the only redeeming character and I felt bad for him. the other characters were either one dimensional or had no redeeming values; Loomis was a con man who realized what he did was wrong and Laurie was just plain annoying. The excessive nudity seemed like an excuse to show boobs and boobs and boobs and Rob Zombie's wife. The profanity made it look like a bad episode of Jerry Springer. Also, there are no scares, Zombie seems to have gone for shock value instead of actually having Michael stalk his victims and finally attack duing the final moments of the film; also, the ending doesen't have that ghost story feeling that the original had.
As a remake/whatever it fails. If it were to stand alone, it would look a lot better.
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Post by Doomsday on Sept 4, 2007 9:39:35 GMT -5
also if i cam make a comment about how brutal Michael was, I didn't like that. it seems nowadays every movies that has a killer like Jason, Freddy, or Michael, they always seem like superman with a mask on. FreddyvsJason was a good showing of this, everything they did just seemed complety far fected, Jason would hit someone and they would go flying about 20 feet. My buddy made a comment after this movie about the fact that everytime Michael was shot or stabbed he never seemed to show it. I think this Michael Myers belonged in a FreddyvsJason type movie, it was just too hard for me to believe. My buddy was laughing at the end becasue if you remember the guy who sold the gun to Dr. Loomis said that it could blow somebodies head off but when they shot Michael its like he was getting hit by a paintball gun.
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Post by count6string on Sept 4, 2007 15:51:17 GMT -5
The guy who sold the gun to Loomis was also in the band "the Monkees." LOL!
I did not like how Loomis shot him in the back and Michael was lying face down. That did not feel right to me.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 4, 2007 16:20:04 GMT -5
I wish we had seen Michael dead for sure like in the work print ending.
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Post by dbsusa on Sept 5, 2007 11:40:08 GMT -5
It took him a while but Zombie finally made a good movie. Of course he already had excellent material to start with, but still it was better than I had expected.
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Post by MysteriO on Sept 6, 2007 6:11:30 GMT -5
Still waiting for the movie down here in AUS!
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Post by Mrs. Count on Sept 8, 2007 19:59:48 GMT -5
*****SPOILERS*****
Well it's been just over a week now and I have to say that I am still disappointed in the film. It was exactly what I expected from Rob Zombie, just not what I wanted.
If he had done a TCM film it would probably be awesome, there is so much room for him to be brutal, profane and plain crazy. But I think that fans of HALLOWEEN expect certain things and if you take out things that are familiar, fans will be disappointed. It just has to be a certain way.
All my complaints in my first post still stand, now I can tell you why...
*Loomis' death. *Loomis shooting Michael in the back and Michael lying face down in the pool. *TOO much nudity and profanity. **Laurie shooting Michael like that was the worst ending they could have come up with!
HALLOWEEN is like a model, it has to go a certain way. Zombie's films remind me of TCM, which is like Playdough, you can do anything with it. IMO, Rob Zombie needs to stick to the Playdough!
I feel really bad for not liking this film. I really like Rob Zombie's music. Maybe in another time and place, where John Carpenter's HALLOWEEN never existed, this would be a good film.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 9, 2007 12:30:39 GMT -5
Very well said.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 9, 2007 12:37:09 GMT -5
This is one of those movies I will probably never warm up to.
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Post by jason3chick on Sept 9, 2007 14:50:17 GMT -5
I watched the workprint ending-This movie makes me so grateful for John Carpenter. I will watch the original and know that Rob Zombie is a hack.
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