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Post by d3M0n on Sept 4, 2010 14:32:42 GMT -5
What makes The Shape is that he was just a guy who chose Laurie at random in the original. Of course, you can also blame Carpenter for having a few beers and making up the sister angle for the sequel, which was never an intention when he made the original in 1978. You are so right dude! I feel like your writing straight from my mind! I am completely into the part 1 concepts vs what they made it, do to greed and a six pack...
Laurie at random was the greatest storyline because it coulda been any of us. Now it's a cliche hokie slasher franchise which is fun to watch. Never a master piece though.
Abrax now youre talking about clones and stuff, I can't compete with completely 3rd party theories. That's a whole thing of your own. You can make seance of all this however you'd like. Thats very cool However as far as the facts and set in stone reality goes, I feel I am correct. Everyone doesnt have to think or feel like me though. That's why everyone is different and I except people for who they are.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 4, 2010 16:14:30 GMT -5
So in a way how do we even know that was Mental Patient Michael Myers rather than another nutjob.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 4, 2010 16:23:52 GMT -5
Possible but unlikely, they mentioned Michaels cell was empty and trashed in Halloween 2.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 4, 2010 20:09:13 GMT -5
So in a way how do we even know that was Mental Patient Michael Myers rather than another nutjob. That is a fairly established fact at this point. I don't know if it is wise to question such an accepted event.
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Post by d3M0n on Sept 4, 2010 21:10:01 GMT -5
So in a way how do we even know that was Mental Patient Michael Myers rather than another nutjob. Loomis saw him unmasked and completely recognized him.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 4, 2010 21:15:01 GMT -5
Oh right, forgot about that. Also I never understood the deal with " Samhain" in Halloween 2, how would Michael or The Shape or whatever you wanna call him know what Samhain is?
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 4, 2010 23:34:44 GMT -5
It certianly wasn't an idea back when the original was made, so chalk it up to drinking a six pack while writing.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 4, 2010 23:38:51 GMT -5
I mean It's not a bad thing it kinda adds to The Shape, like Halloween means something ya know. But hey who knows
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Sept 4, 2010 23:45:47 GMT -5
The intentions of the original needed nothing added to them.
It is best to view the original as a stand alone movie without any sequels.
To tie it into the thread, just look at how movies like H5, H6 and HR take a crap on it.
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Post by Leatherface on Sept 4, 2010 23:46:45 GMT -5
True, I don't mind Samhain though despite the fact what 5 and 6 did with it.
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Post by FireStar on Sept 5, 2010 19:09:20 GMT -5
Yeah they really ran in the wrong direction with it IMO. Personally I always thought the whole Samhain part was in a way trying to give credence to Michael not being human but instead just plain evil and how that evil is connected to the season of Halloween. Death is a part of the Halloween time of year when you think about it, its the beginning of the season when everything begins to die when the harvest is over and all the crops and everything begin to die off. Maybe thats the message they were trying to send that Michael was a metaphor for the death that always happens around that time of year.
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Post by Captain Spaulding on Oct 10, 2011 12:47:52 GMT -5
Halloween Ressurection and Rob Zombies Halloween 2
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Post by Leatherface on Oct 10, 2011 13:19:59 GMT -5
Resurrection and H20. Okay h20 wasn't THAT bad.
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Post by Captain Spaulding on Oct 10, 2011 13:50:50 GMT -5
I liked H20 alot it has to be one of my favorite Halloweens
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Post by Leatherface on Oct 10, 2011 14:10:00 GMT -5
It's not a bad one but just the whole college setting thing bugged me especially since it was clearly ripping off Scream 2
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Post by Rebel on Oct 10, 2011 20:19:47 GMT -5
Resurrection and all of "Love Hurts" whoops i mean Rob Zombie movies that don't exist.
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Post by Zombified Jeremy on Oct 10, 2011 21:37:16 GMT -5
Resurrection and H20. Okay h20 wasn't THAT bad. I like H20. It was a much needed entry in the franchise, which prevented it from going straight to video. Sure, it followed trends, but the movies had been doing that since 1981.
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Post by SleepawayCamp661 on Jun 17, 2012 0:00:57 GMT -5
I picked Halloween Resurrection,Two words: Busta Rhymes...
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jun 17, 2012 3:37:21 GMT -5
Resurrection was pretty bad and got my vote. It ruined the great ending to H20 and the whole webcam show with Busta Rhymes was just horrible. I did enjoy the portrayal of Michael Myers by Brad Loree. He looked good and moved right. Too bad he was used in such a bad Halloween film.
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Post by Kwik Kash on Sept 8, 2013 17:24:18 GMT -5
Surprised I didn't respond to this...
I don't really like the Rob Zombie films. Like Jeremy said earlier, the man has a good ability for visuals. I think Rob Zombie is fine at making music videos, but anything longer than five or six minutes and the man is floundering. That said, they automatically are the worst to me, but since I don't count them as part of the original series, I'll exclude them.
Of the original series, I would say III because it is so different and has no Michael Myers, but when you realize Halloween was supposed to be a stand alone series, you kind of forgive or overlook it. And, by itself, III isn't a terrible film, it's just not what people had just started to expect, so the quest is till on.
I enjoy the original, I think we all do. The second film is pretty good as well, not necessary, but I consider it Halloween extended. The fourth film isn't a masterpiece but it does open up well, but it definitely has one of my least favorite-looking masks in the entire series. The sixth film, while cluttered, has some interesting tidbits to it, and I find something new watching it, each time that I do.
This leaves Halloween 5, Halloween: H20, and Halloween Resurrection. Easily H20 can be removed from this, as I enjoyed some aspects of that film, and it felt like a Halloween film. This leaves 5 and Resurrection...
Now, I didn't expect much out of Resurrection. Busta Rhymes and how the series had been dwindling told me that, while with 5, as a kid seeing it, I wasn't expecting a masterpiece but I was expecting something decent. Resurrection, as bad as it is, has great use of the Michael Myers character, as Kyle mentioned, but it was just used in a terrible film. 5 though, it has a lot of issues and, at times, is very boring and repetitive.
In the end, it comes down to one thing. Which would I have to tap out and stop watching first, if I had to watch both side by side, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again?
Halloween 5. Resurrection, as bad as it may be, at least leaves one able to laugh at it. Halloween 5 though, well... it's just kind of boring.
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