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Post by Xч on Jan 29, 2008 18:22:11 GMT -5
www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/11004
This sounds great! I loved the TCM remake and i guess i'm not the only one. Platinum Dunes knows how to properly make a remake.
Friday now nightmare. Good move!
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 20:39:58 GMT -5
This could get ugly. With them obviously not using Englund I could see this becoming another Rob Zombie's Halloween fiasco with fans. But honestly I think this is the right way to go. Englund is too old to play the part from the beginning or a prequel as was rumored for so long. Plus as popular as he is there is no way Englund could have played him forever. More iconic characters than Krueger have been played by multiple actors. Successfully I might add. Look at how both Bela Lugosi and Christopher Lee are praised for their portrayals of Dracula. Platinum Dunes has a proven track record. Plus they sound like they are going to be doing the Friday the 13th film right. So I say give them a chance with this. It could end up being amazing.
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Post by Xч on Jan 29, 2008 21:38:59 GMT -5
I agree making the film without Englund could cause a riot. But Englund is way to old.According to BD the film is scheduled to come out in 2010.Englund is going to be what 63. I'm pretty sure there is another young actor out there that looks like a younger Englund who can pull it off. If they could find someone,then all they have to do is show him all the nightmares to make him motivated enough to pull it off. But who knows maybe Englund could still do it. With the right makeup,right script,it could happen. I still think we should try and keep an open mind. This new film is not a sequel.
Its a whole new story.Like the TCM remake,the nightmare remake storyline will probably be differnt from the original nightmare. what ever happens i'm interested in seeing what Platinum Dunes come up with.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 21:45:16 GMT -5
I don't think they need to even find someone who looks like Englund. I think it would be for the best if they don't try and copy his way of playing him. That's when the comparisons would get in the way.
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Post by Xч on Jan 29, 2008 21:49:43 GMT -5
I see your point.I agree. It would definitely cause trouble if they decide to go without englund then find someone to try and imitate the man.
I would be pissed off too now that i think about it. If they do it without Englund they have to find another actor with a whole different style.
I just hope they still use the razor glove ;D
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 21:52:55 GMT -5
I'd imagine they probably plan on going the same route they did with Leatherface. Change his character enough to where he's different. But keep him similar enough in actions and looks so it's still obviously Freddy.
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Post by JasonKrueger13 on Jan 29, 2008 21:59:56 GMT -5
If they don't use Robert there is no point in seeing this. Meaning they should stop making Nightmare films.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 22:01:14 GMT -5
And it begins. ;D
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Post by Xч on Jan 29, 2008 22:03:41 GMT -5
I figured by not using Robert,that would cause a riot. ;D
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Post by JasonKrueger13 on Jan 29, 2008 22:04:21 GMT -5
of course, there is always room for complaining. However I would see it if Robert at least appears in the film like LT. Thompson maybe. hmm I will be ok with that.
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Post by Xч on Jan 29, 2008 22:05:55 GMT -5
Nancy's old man?
Hmmm i don't know.lol
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 22:08:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if they go that route. Since he's too old for Freddy I could see him playing another part.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 22:32:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't bet on that. A lot of people like Andrew Bryniarski's portrayal of LF as much or more than Gunnar Hansen's. Just because a character is an icon doesn't mean people aren't willing to give it a chance. I say give whoever they find a chance. Englund was amazing as Freddy. But if Freddy is a truly iconic character then he should be able to be portrayed by more than one person. If he isn't then that doesn't say much for the character of Freddy Krueger.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 29, 2008 22:48:42 GMT -5
I think that was New Lines mistake then. Relying on one aging man to carry a character isn't good business. It's not thinking ahead. I guess I understand why they did it. They were for the most part made fairly close together. It's sad if Freddy Krueger fans don't think the character has any legs unless Englund does it. Even if he did play him until he's wearing Depends then what? The character dies with him? I guess horror fans just aren't as open minded as they used to be. Back during Universal's hey day all but one of those characters (The Wolf Man) were played by multiple actors. But I guess if the internet was around then maybe we'd have seen the same kind of uproar.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 30, 2008 13:21:00 GMT -5
I've already seen people start recommending people for the part. The one I like the most so far is Ben Foster. He was in '30 Days Of Night'. He was Also in 'X-Men 3' and was a regular on the HBO show '6 Feet Under' for awhile. He's a great actor. Great at playing a psycho. I want to straighten something out. Just in case I made the wrong impression earlier in the thread. I would prefer they use Englund too. Or I should say I would prefer if they could use Englund too. But I am a realist. I know he's too old to do it. Honestly he was kind of pushing it in F vs. J. and that was 5 years ago. I know not many of you have seen him in Hatchet. But they didn't use make up to make him look like that. He just grew a beard, If this new Nightmare series is starting over from the beginning with a new series then Robert just isn't the right person to do it. Unless they drastically change the characters origin story to fit the age difference.
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Post by JasonKrueger13 on Jan 30, 2008 14:33:59 GMT -5
Freddy is a character that just can't be rewritten. If it was different it is not Freddy. If it's not Robert, most fans will just say this is not Freddy at all...
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 30, 2008 15:01:19 GMT -5
That's kind of sad then. I guess that means Freddy isn't going to end up as iconic or influential as Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster or the other classics then. If his fans continue to think that one dimensionally then there isn't a lot of hope for the future of Freddy Krueger. EDIT I want to add something to this because that came off cruel. I'm not judging people for loving Englund in the role or Freddy the way he is. But have horror fans really gotten so bad they aren't willing to see different interpretations? I'm a HUGE Friday the 13th fan. Yet you don't see me getting miffed that Platinum Dunes is doing a new Friday film. And don't come back to me with this bunk about how Jason has been played by more than one actor. Who cares? Is that your way of saying you think Freddy is a better or more iconic character? Because that's hogwash. The only reason he's been played by one actor thus far is because it's a speaking role and they were made close together. If Freddy didn't talk we'd be up to 4-5 different actors by now. I can understand loving an actors portrayal of a character. My favorite Dracula has always been Lugosi. But that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the other people playing the part. I guess what I'm saying is if you really love the character of Freddy you might want to give someone else a shot. Because as great a character as he is one man can't play him forever.
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Post by JasonKrueger13 on Jan 30, 2008 16:10:07 GMT -5
The point I am trying to make is that Freddy is a huge Icon that a lot know, if you see Freddy you know it is Robert inside. Freddy has a personality that I feel only Robert can show.
Like you don't see Pinhead being different actors. Jason and Michael can have different actors because they have no voice...thats my point really.
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Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jan 30, 2008 16:44:30 GMT -5
I understand your point. I understand the point of all the people who are upset. I'm just saying the character of Freddy isn't going to have much of a legacy if he's limited to one actor.
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Post by Xч on Jan 30, 2008 17:01:48 GMT -5
What kyle is saying is that the Freddy Krueger character if only played by Robert Englund will die when Robert retires from acting. The classic monsters survived the tests of time because different people played them..and very well too.
Predator is saying that Englund made that character,so without Englund Freddy doesn't exist.So no more nightmare films.
I love Robert Englund and i'm very thankful for what he gave us.But i also love Freddy Krueger. Lets face it guys,our Robert Englund Freddy kreuger days are almost to an end.We have to ask ourselves as fans.Do we really want Freddy the character dead?Or do we want Freddy to last the tests of time like Dracula and the wolfman?
I want Freddy to last,if that means finding a new actor or actors to play the character 'Thats ok'.I mean there is so much unanswered questions the first nightmares did not answer. And i personally would love to see a more serious,scary as hell Freddy.
The original nightmares had humor,so i doubt the remake is going that route.I'm thinking they are going to make Freddy as scary as possible. I'm all for that. The bottom line is this,Some of us including myself own every single nightmare on dvd or VHS.That will always be there.
But don't you want more? I do.
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