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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 13:50:53 GMT -5
Post by FireStar on Jun 21, 2008 13:50:53 GMT -5
I personally love this series, but I have met many people who are Horror fans who can't stand them and I just don't get it.
What do you guys think?
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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 14:02:19 GMT -5
Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jun 21, 2008 14:02:19 GMT -5
I think it's the best new horror franchise in years. I look forward to each new movie.
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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 15:58:10 GMT -5
Post by jlaw on Jun 21, 2008 15:58:10 GMT -5
I gotta say, I'm not really too fond of these movies. The first was a colossal disappointment. The two leads were horrendous and constantly took me out the film. The ending was ridiculous and there was no hint in the film of why Jigsaw was able to remain motionless for hours. Sure you could guess, but it came out of nowhere in the context of the film...while most liked that, I thought it was simply stupid. The second is my favorite of the series, mainly because I liked the introduction of Amanda as his accomplice, but it is still only decent. The third was horrendous and I haven't seen IV yet.
Even though I don't have a liking for them, I think it is cool to see a long running horror franchise these days, just like how there were multiple films of series in the 80's.
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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 15:59:57 GMT -5
Post by Colt .45 on Jun 21, 2008 15:59:57 GMT -5
I gotta say, I'm not really too fond of these movies. The first was a colossal disappointment. The two leads were horrendous and constantly took me out the film. The ending was ridiculous and there was no hint in the film of why Jigsaw was able to remain motionless for hours. Sure you could guess, but it came out of nowhere in the context of the film...while most liked that, I thought it was simply stupid. The second is my favorite of the series, mainly because I liked the introduction of Amanda as his accomplice, but it is still only decent. The third was horrendous and I haven't seen IV yet. Even though I don't have a liking for them, I think it is cool to see a long running horror franchise these days, just like how there were multiple films of series in the 80's. Dont waste your time with IV, if you hated 3 then you are definantly going to hate that one.
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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 16:17:16 GMT -5
Post by jlaw on Jun 21, 2008 16:17:16 GMT -5
Most likely. Unfortunately, it's one of those things where once you see one, you have to see the rest, even if it is something you don't love. I'm a completionist at heart.
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Saw
Jun 21, 2008 17:03:23 GMT -5
Post by Xч on Jun 21, 2008 17:03:23 GMT -5
I think it's the best new horror franchise in years. I look forward to each new movie. Same here. Love saw.
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Saw
Jun 22, 2008 16:21:11 GMT -5
Post by fridayfan1979 on Jun 22, 2008 16:21:11 GMT -5
I gotta say, I'm not really too fond of these movies. The first was a colossal disappointment. The two leads were horrendous and constantly took me out the film. The ending was ridiculous and there was no hint in the film of why Jigsaw was able to remain motionless for hours. Sure you could guess, but it came out of nowhere in the context of the film...while most liked that, I thought it was simply stupid. The second is my favorite of the series, mainly because I liked the introduction of Amanda as his accomplice, but it is still only decent. The third was horrendous and I haven't seen IV yet. Even though I don't have a liking for them, I think it is cool to see a long running horror franchise these days, just like how there were multiple films of series in the 80's. I know what you're saying jlaw. I've watched every Saw movie when they came out, but after seeing them once I really don't have a desire to see them again. That's rare for me with a horror movie. They just don't have re-watchability, IMO.
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Saw
Jul 6, 2008 0:42:07 GMT -5
Post by terridawn on Jul 6, 2008 0:42:07 GMT -5
I have not see any of the SAW movies. For some reason the advertisements/trailers have not jumped out at me. I have had students in my classes who told me to watch these movies, but I still have not gotten around to it.
One time two students recommended JEEPERS CREEPERS 2. I told them that the first movie disturbed me, but was good horror. As a result of my response, they insisted that I check out part 2. Well, I watched it, but not sure if I can always trust their recommendations.
I read Betsy Russell was in two of the SAW movies. I like her (remember PRIVATE SCHOOL?) and have not see her in a movie in a while.
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Saw
Jul 6, 2008 2:47:08 GMT -5
Post by Chainsaw on Jul 6, 2008 2:47:08 GMT -5
terridawn, at least watch the first Saw and let us know what you think. I bet you really enjoy it.
Jeepers Creepers 2 was OK, but the orignal was much better I say.
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Saw
Jul 6, 2008 6:38:33 GMT -5
Post by fridayfan1979 on Jul 6, 2008 6:38:33 GMT -5
I read Betsy Russell was in two of the SAW movies. I like her (remember PRIVATE SCHOOL?) and have not see her in a movie in a while. I like her too. ;D At one time, it didn't get much better than Betsy Russell for me.
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Saw
Jul 8, 2008 17:13:51 GMT -5
Post by Chhchhchhahhahhahh on Jul 8, 2008 17:13:51 GMT -5
I think the Saw series is ok. I like that traps and all....what I don't care for too much is when they turn the whole story upside down.To me it just says the franchise is dried up and they constantly shift the story to breathe new life, make more $$. Sometimes when they twist the plot like this I forget I'm watching horror...It feels like I'm watching 90210.
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Saw
Jul 25, 2008 20:39:55 GMT -5
Post by Drayton Sawyer on Jul 25, 2008 20:39:55 GMT -5
First Trailer for Part V.
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Saw
Jul 28, 2008 5:38:29 GMT -5
Post by Xч on Jul 28, 2008 5:38:29 GMT -5
Looks great! Can't wait to get my ass in the movie house seat this Halloween.
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Saw
Oct 4, 2008 17:45:46 GMT -5
Post by The Darkness on Oct 4, 2008 17:45:46 GMT -5
Some facts you might not have known about the Saw series:
Saw I facts:
* The MPAA originally rated the film NC-17, due to the film's tone; director James Wan had to remove some content to secure an R rating.
* The scene in which Gordon turns off the lights and whispers to Adam was written differently in the script. The characters were to cut open opposite ends of a long pipe with their hacksaws and speak through it. This sequence was actually shot, but later cut because director James Wan decided that the characters being able to cut through a pipe made no sense if they couldn't cut through their chains.
* Film's pre-production was only five days; it was shot and cut at the same time in 18 days (all of the bathroom scenes were shot in six days). The actors had absolutely no rehearsals. The rehearsal takes were actual footage for the film.
* Filmed in 18 days.
* Sundance showed the NC-17 uncut version. The actual theatrical R-rated version is cut and more finessed, and the sound and colors were evened.
* The car chase was filmed in the garage of the warehouse by turning off the lights, adding some fog, and shaking the cars while filming from the front.
* Principal photography was done in a converted warehouse. The bathroom set was built while the other locations were existing rooms redressed.
* Originally intended for a straight-to-video release. After positive screenings, it was given the nod to become a premier movie.
* Director James Wan took a gamble and took no "up front" salary for the movie and opted for a percentage instead.
* Shots cut in the R-rated version, according to director James Wan and screen-writer/actor Leigh Whannell, included ones of Amanda sifting through the intestines, the fat guy struggle through the barb wire just to shorten the scene, and some forensic ones. The color was made more even and the sound was altered because the MPAA had problems with the tone of the original cut shown in Sundance.
* James Wan and Leigh Whannell wrote the script and submitted it to their manager. The manager then sent it to an agent in L.A. who summoned the two of them for a meeting. They were encouraged to shoot a scene from the script as a short film which they started passing around to studios.
* According to the DVD commentary, casting agent Amy Lippens asked director James Wan who he wanted to play the character of Amanda. On a whim, Wan suggested actress Shawnee Smith, on whom he had had a crush since his teen years. He was surprised when Lippens came back a few days later and told him that they had secured her for the role.
* The detectives track down a fire alarm to a warehouse in "Stygian Street". "Stygian" is the name of director James Wan's first film, which also stars "Saw" co-writer/actor Leigh Whannell.
* According to the DVD commentary director James Wan points out that many of the scare scenes in the film were nightmares he and Leigh Whannell had as kids.
* The sequel Saw II (2005) was approved for production the weekend this film opened.
* Jigsaw's puppet was completely made from scratch by the films creators (it was not bought at a store or a puppet that was altered).
* All of the bathroom scenes were shot in chronological order in order to make the actors feel more what the characters were going through.
* After Amanda stabs her cell-mate she is searching with her hands through his guts, the guts are actually pig uterus.
* To help sell his concept for the film, Leigh Whannell shot a scene in which he appears to be ensnared in a bear trap. There were no special effects involved, he actually had to place the teeth of the rusty bear trap in his mouth to make it seem real.
* Leigh Whannell mentions in the DVD commentary that the scene where his character plunges his hand down a filthy toilet is a tribute to Danny Boyle's Trainspotting (1996).
Saw 2 Facts:
Was shot in 25 days.
The advertising posters for the film had to be recalled on orders from the MPAA because the two severed fingers forming the "II" in the posters did not meet guidelines for film advertising. The new poster makes it more obscure. Also, posters had listed the film as being rated R when at the time the film still hadn't gone before the MPAA for a rating.
When Danny takes out the syringes from Amanda's arm, the crew used a fake animatronic arm.
The name of Jigsaw, according to a scene with a nurse, is John Krame
When Jigsaw is giving directions to the fake house, he tells Dectective Mathews that it's the last house on the left. This is a reference to the movie, “Last House on the Left”, in which the parents of a murdered teenager torture and kill the murderers.
The original concept of the needle pit was to have Amanda neck-deep in needles, but the crew knew that it would never work.
The whole film was shot in one building.
Saw 3 Facts:
The producers asked the producers of Scary Movie 4 (2006) if they could use their bathroom set for this movie as it was an exact replica of the sets used in Saw 1 and 2.
First Saw movie to include nudity.
The film was so anticipated by the fans, that the teaser trailer that was placed in front of the film The Descent (2005) was bootlegged and published online on the day of release.
According to producer 'Daniel J. Heffner (I)', the film was sent to the MPAA ratings board 7 times before obtaining the "R" rating, receiving the "NC-17" rating every previous time.
# 1000 special posters were made and were sold for $20 each in support of Saw III and the American Red Cross. Tobin Bell, donated 2 Vials of his own blood to be dumped into the red ink vat. All 1000 posters were then printed with the red ink vat and later sold. However, the first print was put up for auction. It was also signed by the entire cast and crew. All proceeds from both sales, went to the American Red Cross
Saw 4 Facts:
‘Saw IV’ was given the greenlight before the third movie even opened. This was stated in Fangoria Magazine #257: "The synopsis, bare as it is, takes the third installment to a new budget level for Lionsgate's wildly successful franchise. Saw was made for approximately $1 million, Saw II cost $4 million and the figure for Saw III, according to producer Mark Burg , has risen to $10 million. Saw III was greenlighted the morning after Saw II opened to massive box-office returns, the producer confirms, "and when they ordered Saw III, they also ordered and greenlit Saw IV."
# Is the first movie in the ‘Saw’ series not to be written by ‘Saw’ co-creator, Leigh Whannell.
Filmed in 32 days.
The seamless transitions between separate scenes in the movie were not created using (digital) visual effects, but were done practically. For these transitions, the sets were build in such a way that two separate scenes could be filmed in one shot without interruption.
As part of a running gag in the Saw series, the filming crew always hides what they call a 'fart machine' in one of the sets, and make it go off in a particular serious scene, to see how long the actor or actors can keep a straight face. This time, 'Liriq Bent' was the victim. He actually managed to remain in a character a couple of seconds before bursting into laughter.
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Saw
Oct 4, 2008 19:09:02 GMT -5
Post by Xч on Oct 4, 2008 19:09:02 GMT -5
I say release the nc-17 version of saw
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Saw
Oct 4, 2008 19:10:30 GMT -5
Post by Leatherface on Oct 4, 2008 19:10:30 GMT -5
hey did anyone ever se ethe short film taht was made before saw? it had leigh wahnell in the reverse bear trap thing and it also had billy the puppet but he wore a hat
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Saw
Oct 4, 2008 19:57:38 GMT -5
Post by Drayton Sawyer on Oct 4, 2008 19:57:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's one of the special features on the Saw DVD. I liked that version.
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Saw
Oct 4, 2008 19:59:32 GMT -5
Post by Leatherface on Oct 4, 2008 19:59:32 GMT -5
i wonder if tobin bell did the voice for billy in that
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Saw
Oct 14, 2008 7:55:19 GMT -5
Post by Drayton Sawyer on Oct 14, 2008 7:55:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he wasn't. That was made to sell the idea of making the real film. So Tobin wasn't likely to have been involved.
Wow do they do a good job of advertising these films. The commercials for Saw V really make me want to see it.
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Saw
Oct 14, 2008 18:51:18 GMT -5
Post by fridayfan1979 on Oct 14, 2008 18:51:18 GMT -5
I like the Saw franchise pretty well, but honestly, the main reason I want to see Saw V is for the Friday the 13th trailer.
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